QUOTE(orphadeus @ Feb 25 2011, 10:23 AM)

Self defence can also apply to protecting someone who you have never met.
Well, but that's dicey, isn't it. Suppose you stepped into a fracas where a man was beating his wife, but when you got there some others were beating up on him. So, you step in and use, say, a firearm on someone who was protecting the wife. Well you can see: protection of others is problematical.
Nowhere was this more obvious than in the attempted assassination of Gabriel Giffords. The one guy with a gun in the crowd, said he would have killed the only person who was trying to subdue the bad guy. Talk about adding insult to injury.