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MOMO
[color=#000000][size=3]السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته..

Excuse me!!

Would you stop for a moment?!

Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?

Who has made it?

Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!

Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!

It's you and the whole universe!..

Who has made them all ?!!

You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.

Just think for a moment.

How are you going to be after death ?!

Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of these great creation will end in nothing...just after death!

Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's punishment?!

Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!

Here you will get the answer


NO ADVERTISING.
NO PREACHING
NO NO NO NO NO!
Harlequin
Is this the same Allah that is trying to kill me?
rederic
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How are you going to be after death ?!


Nowhere.


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Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of these great creation will end in nothing...just after death!


Yes.

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Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's punishment?!


Nope.

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Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!


Nope. There is no God.






Ask youself this. Why does your God want you to kill me. If he is all powerful, why can't he do it himself?
MOMO
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


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How are you going to be after death ?!


Nowhere.

Are you sure?


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Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of these great creation will end in nothing...just after death!


Yes.

Of course


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Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's punishment?!


Nope.


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Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!


Nope. There is no God.

Ask youself this. Why does your God want you to kill me. If he is all powerful, why can't he do it himself?


This is something wrong if there was no God .. why are we here??
just we live in this life to eat and sleep ??to work and study??
This is unbelievable
God created us and put us in this life to test us
To see if we will be good or bad
Muslims or unbelievers

Do you want scientific evidence to believe that there is god ??

and to believe that Islam is the right religion??


aboutblank1976
Oh for fucks sake here we go again - just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water after BOB123 another religious nutbag drops in for a chat.

Firstly don't come on here asking other people (who you dont know) to embrace your set of beliefs when it is quite plain from your 2 posts that you can't even hope to comprehend anybody else's beliefs (or non-belief).

Secondly this is a section to discuss religion, not ram it down people's throats. You are not going to convert anyone here believe me!

Thirdly your first post is being edited because of the blatant advertising of your Allah and the beliefs of Islam.

Did it ever occur to you that people will find Allan (sorry) Allah themselves of their own freewill and their own need, without you chipping in?
Rach227
QUOTE(aboutblank1976 @ Mar 28 2009, 01:42 PM) *

Oh for fucks sake here we go again - just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water after BOB123 another religious nutbag drops in for a chat.

Firstly don't come on here asking other people (who you dont know) to embrace your set of beliefs when it is quite plain from your 2 posts that you can't even hope to comprehend anybody else's beliefs (or non-belief).

Secondly this is a section to discuss religion, not ram it down people's throats. You are not going to convert anyone here believe me!

Thirdly your first post is being edited because of the blatant advertising of your Allah and the beliefs of Islam.

Did it ever occur to you that people will find Allan (sorry) Allah themselves of their own freewill and their own need, without you chipping in?


You forget one difference this ones for islam instead of christianity:p

I'm not here to be preached at! If someone wants to believe they can but there's no point scarin/preachin people into it because then its not real belief at all
MOMO

Firstly don't come on here asking other people (who you dont know) to embrace your set of beliefs when it is quite plain from your 2 posts that you can't even hope to comprehend anybody else's beliefs (or non-belief).

hi

why you are so angry??

????

dont you love chatting??

or you just want to chat in silly things??

why dont you think alittle in my words??

we are just chatting ... iam not telling you to change your religion??

or to believe in mine??


Let’s talk frankly. Almost never do non-Muslims study Islam until they have first exhausted the religions of their exposure. Only after they have grown dissatisfied with the religions familiar to them, meaning Judaism, Christianity and all the fashionable “-isms”—Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism (and, as my young daughter once added, “tourism”)—do they consider Islam.

Perhaps other religions do not answer the big questions of life, such as “Who made us?” and “Why are we here?” Perhaps other religions do not reconcile the injustices of life with a fair and just Creator. Perhaps we find hypocrisy in the clergy, untenable tenets of faith in the canon, or corruption in the scripture. Whatever the reason, we perceive shortcomings in the religions of our exposure, and look elsewhere. And the ultimate “elsewhere” is Islam.

Now, Muslims would not like to hear me say that Islam is the “ultimate elsewhere.” But it is. Despite the fact that Muslims comprise one-fourth to one-fifth of the world’s population, non-Muslim media smears Islam with such horrible slanders that few non-Muslims view the religion in a positive light. Hence, it is normally the last religion seekers investigate.

Another problem is that by the time non-Muslims examine Islam, other religions have typically heightened their skepticism: If every “God-given” scripture we have ever seen is corrupt, how can the Islamic scripture be different? If charlatans have manipulated religions to suit their desires, how can we imagine the same not to have happened with Islam?

The answer can be given in a few lines, but takes books to explain. The short answer is this: There is a God. He is fair and just, and He wants us to achieve the reward of paradise. However, God has placed us in this worldly life as a test, to weed out the worthy from the unworthy. And we will be lost if left to our own devices. Why? Because we don’t know what He wants from us. We can’t navigate the twists and turns of this life without His guidance, and hence, He has given us guidance in the form of revelation.

Sure, previous religions have been corrupted, and that is one of the reasons why we have a chain of revelation. Ask yourself: wouldn’t God send another revelation if the preceding scriptures were impure? If preceding scriptures were corrupted, humans would need another revelation, to keep upon the straight path of His design.

So we should expect preceding scriptures to be corrupted, and we should expect the final revelation to be pure and unadulterated,for we cannot imagine a loving God leaving us astray. What we can imagine is God giving us a scripture, and men corrupting it; God giving us another scripture, and men corrupting it again … and again, and again. Until God sends a final revelation He promises to preserve until the end of time.

Muslims consider this final revelation to be the Holy Quran. You consider it … worth looking into. So let us return to the title of this article: Why Islam? Why should we believe that Islam is the religion of truth, the religion that possesses the pure and final revelation?

“Oh, just trust me.”

Now, how many times have you heard that line? A famous comedian used to joke that people of different cities cuss one another out in different ways. In Chicago, they cuss a person out this way, in Los Angeles they cuss a person out that way, but in New York they just say, “Trust me.”

So don’t trust me—trust our Creator. Read the Quran, read books and study good websites. But whatever you do, get started, take it seriously, and pray for our Creator to guide you.

Your life may not depend on it, but your soul most definitely does.







aboutblank1976
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QUOTE(MOMO @ Mar 28 2009, 02:17 PM) *

Firstly don't come on here asking other people (who you dont know) to embrace your set of beliefs when it is quite plain from your 2 posts that you can't even hope to comprehend anybody else's beliefs (or non-belief).

hi

why you are so angry??

????

dont you love chatting??

or you just want to chat in silly things??

why dont you think alittle in my words??

we are just chatting ... iam not telling you to change your religion??

or to believe in mine??


What in 3 posts you have completely changed your demeanour and message? This is not chatting, this is preaching it's like me creating a thread telling everyone how great being an Atheist is, I don't do so because I dont think anybody would be interested nor would I expect them to be. Your just preaching and oh surprise surprise the next bit you start doing it all over again!

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Let’s talk frankly. Almost never do non-Muslims study Islam until they have first exhausted the religions of their exposure. Only after they have grown dissatisfied with the religions familiar to them, meaning Judaism, Christianity and all the fashionable “-isms”—Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism (and, as my young daughter once added, “tourism”)—do they consider Islam.

Perhaps other religions do not answer the big questions of life, such as “Who made us?” and “Why are we here?” Perhaps other religions do not reconcile the injustices of life with a fair and just Creator. Perhaps we find hypocrisy in the clergy, untenable tenets of faith in the canon, or corruption in the scripture. Whatever the reason, we perceive shortcomings in the religions of our exposure, and look elsewhere. And the ultimate “elsewhere” is Islam.

Now, Muslims would not like to hear me say that Islam is the “ultimate elsewhere.” But it is. Despite the fact that Muslims comprise one-fourth to one-fifth of the world’s population, non-Muslim media smears Islam with such horrible slanders that few non-Muslims view the religion in a positive light. Hence, it is normally the last religion seekers investigate.

Another problem is that by the time non-Muslims examine Islam, other religions have typically heightened their skepticism: If every “God-given” scripture we have ever seen is corrupt, how can the Islamic scripture be different? If charlatans have manipulated religions to suit their desires, how can we imagine the same not to have happened with Islam?

The answer can be given in a few lines, but takes books to explain. The short answer is this: There is a God. He is fair and just, and He wants us to achieve the reward of paradise. However, God has placed us in this worldly life as a test, to weed out the worthy from the unworthy. And we will be lost if left to our own devices. Why? Because we don’t know what He wants from us. We can’t navigate the twists and turns of this life without His guidance, and hence, He has given us guidance in the form of revelation.

Sure, previous religions have been corrupted, and that is one of the reasons why we have a chain of revelation. Ask yourself: wouldn’t God send another revelation if the preceding scriptures were impure? If preceding scriptures were corrupted, humans would need another revelation, to keep upon the straight path of His design.

So we should expect preceding scriptures to be corrupted, and we should expect the final revelation to be pure and unadulterated,for we cannot imagine a loving God leaving us astray. What we can imagine is God giving us a scripture, and men corrupting it; God giving us another scripture, and men corrupting it again … and again, and again. Until God sends a final revelation He promises to preserve until the end of time.

Muslims consider this final revelation to be the Holy Quran. You consider it … worth looking into. So let us return to the title of this article: Why Islam? Why should we believe that Islam is the religion of truth, the religion that possesses the pure and final revelation?

“Oh, just trust me.”

Now, how many times have you heard that line? A famous comedian used to joke that people of different cities cuss one another out in different ways. In Chicago, they cuss a person out this way, in Los Angeles they cuss a person out that way, but in New York they just say, “Trust me.”

So don’t trust me—trust our Creator. Read the Quran, read books and study good websites. But whatever you do, get started, take it seriously, and pray for our Creator to guide you.

Your life may not depend on it, but your soul most definitely does.


"Your life may not depend on it, but your soul most definitely does" How dare you. What gives you the right to be so cocksure about the existence of the "soul" or my choice of beliefs (or non-belief) affecting it's safety.

Angry? Angry doesn't come close chum! You are no better than the Jehovahs that knock on our front doors.
Harlequin
I actually hope MOMO sticks around. This looks like it might be fun. hi.gif

Just remember MOMO, when I wade in don't think it's just anti-islamic...I hate ALL religions. I'll treat you the same as I treat the christian beliefs. So don't try the "You are picking on me because I'm islamic!" gambit, because it will get you nowhere. OK?
rederic
Why is it that you & your kind (religious people) can't understand. It's not that I won't believe, I just can't believe. No amount of preaching will convince me. It's not about one religion either, Christians, Muslims, Jews or any other you care to mention. As far as I'm concerned you're all deluded.
Harlequin
"Islam (Alah) is peace."

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All religions say the same thing..."We come in peace (shoot to kill.)"

"We covet nothing but our God (but we will dominate the world)"

The religious meme is a nasty one. It destroys free thinking and promotes delusions and slavery.

rederic
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This is something wrong if there was no God .. why are we here??


Why does there have to be a reason, perhaps it just is.

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just we live in this life to eat and sleep ??to work and study??
This is unbelievable


I don't find it unbelievable.


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Do you want scientific evidence to believe that there is god ??


That would be a start.
Jason Chapman
Hey Momo, here's a question.

If I am more than happy for you to believe in whatever god you want to, then are you happy for me to believe in whatever want to?

Live and let live and all that stuff
Mickyfin
I'm going 'Along with Blank' here. We have tolerated several religious freaks here.

I don't believe in organised religions . If you do ? then so be it. There is no need to shove it down somebody else's throat.

Got to admit here that I am a hypercrite.. I was wounded *Man down* ,,,, like a shit house,, I cried fror my mum,,,, then "God help me."

What you do in a war situation ? You will never know.
rederic
QUOTE(Mickyfin @ Mar 28 2009, 07:04 PM) *

I'm going 'Along with Blank' here. We have tolerated several religious freaks here.

I don't believe in organised religions . If you do ? then so be it. There is no need to shove it down somebody else's throat.

Got to admit here that I am a hypercrite.. I was wounded *Man down* ,,,, like a shit house,, I cried fror my mum,,,, then "God help me."

What you do in a war situation ? You will never know.


Hi Mick. Please don't think I'm knocking you but do you think it was God who saved you or modern medicine? Do you think you would have survived if there hadn't been any medics about?
rederic
Looks like MOMO doesn't want to chat after all.
Jason Chapman
He’s just testing the water, to see what reaction he can get from us, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has been back but not logged in. He’s had his fun and moved on, or he could write something else. People like MOMO thrive at being able to get a reaction out of people.

I’ve just been reading through what he has written, I bet he’s posted that on other forums. It makes you wonder after reading HQ’s post about security forces monitoring facebook and other sites like these, if MOMO isn’t MI5, he writes without any passion.

JonoF
I believe in a higher power.
But i don't believe in your higher power, nor any of those that try to claim it as their own and put a nametag/label on it.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
MOMO = Bob123 estranged cousin?
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