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Scorpio
The Daily Mail yawn.gif has this story,(although its all over the internet too) where a kid in South Africa went into a school wearing a mask similar to the ones Slipknot wear, and stabbed to death four people.

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Pierre Eksteen, who is in charge of the school’s support network, said: ‘We know the wrong kind of music and drugs have bad effects. Young people need to be informed of the effects of bad satanic music.




I found this article where the front man, quite rightly, rejects all blame and says

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"Obviously, I'm disturbed by the fact that people were hurt and someone died," he tells Blender. "As far as my responsibility for that goes, it stops there, because I know our message is actually very positive." In the past, when Slipknot was linked to real-world violence, "I used to sweat it really hard," he adds. "But the thing I have to realize is the fact that I'm not encouraging anybody to kill anybody. I encourage our fans to express themselves, to stick together and to help each other."


I'm not an expert on slipknot, although i know they scream alot and speak with deep gravelly voices in their songs but i never thought their music was / is "satanic" erm.gif It makes me angry how people make assumptions on music groups, (and i suppose people in general) that the way they dress demonstrates the music they make. I've quickly scanned a few of their songs and found nothing satanic.

And it makes me annoyed that the people around these kids are always quick to blame someone or something else, whether it be music (usually Marilyn Manson), video games or movies, but never look at themselves
Harlequin
The blame -if there is any- lies with what is obviously a disturbed child, or the parents. You can't blame "music" for murder, and saying it is satanic is just silly.

Wasn't there a whole slew of reports a few years back about records being played backwards at slow speed, and there being "messages from Satan" in them.

(I think there was a thread here on BUKF in our early days about a message from John Lennon in a track played backwards)


Purely as an aside. I've left a demonic message in this posting, you just have to scramble all the letters and rearrange them to say...."I am Satan. I order you to eat your socks and murder your mother in laws"
Scorpio
Thanks HQ ohmy.gif I've just murdered six of my work colleagues and when the police catch up with me, i'll tell them to arrest you HQ, not me first.gif
Rach227
haha good one HQ, but seriously, I'm sick of papers and the television blaming music, tv shows or games for problems (like murder) that arise because the child or person based it on the music, tv or game.

For example, not long ago a child copied a video game (can't remember its name) but it was a shooting game about blood n guts e.t.c, the child was 12 and the game was for 28 and overs, why blame the game when it's the shops fault for selling to those underage or it's the fault of the parents for buying it for them and letting them have it, it's not the games fault.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
QUOTE(Harlequin @ Aug 23 2008, 08:48 AM) *


Wasn't there a whole slew of reports a few years back about records being played backwards at slow speed, and there being "messages from Satan" in them.



So Iron Maiden put a message in a song to annoy people (Still Life, from Piece of Mind)

Strangely, Charles Manson blames the song Helter Skelter.

But then if you see the amount of killers before "satanic" music. You see its just nonsense.

And Slipknot arent Heavy Metal, just Metal.
I am the devil
Watch this clip Marlyn Manson is the only one that talks any sense in it,



Manson
Kellyxx
the kids and parents are to blame not a band they just blame it on anything but them selves x
Rach227
I said that above it parents not controllin there kids or the kids jus generally bein outta hand
Kellyxx
QUOTE(Rach227 @ Aug 26 2008, 09:56 PM) *

I said that above it parents not controllin there kids or the kids jus generally bein outta hand


def rachel!! theres always someone or sumet to blame it on instead of themselves!
i watch vampire films but i dont go round eating people lol
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