Jason Chapman
May 13 2008, 08:29 PM
I recently answered a post on another forum concerning Mr Icke and this is what I wrote
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I have never read anything David Icke has written so I am not qualified to comment. However I do have this to say. In 1991 he first announced that he was the Son of God on the Terry Wogan show BBC1. Since then he has changed his story in a regular basis which has made him a figure of ridicule. I have just been watching this interview you tube. It is a lot to take in, he’s a very good speaker and I can see why a lot of people would be sucked in to his way of thinking.
I think most people know how crap this world is and how controlled our different societies can be. But most of us choose to push these kinds of subjects to the dark recesses of our minds. Fear of saying something like ‘I believe in UFO’s’ can cause most of us to just clam up when it’s mentioned in the media.
One thing David Icke is good at, and that’s jumping on people band wagons especially Dan Brown who’s books ‘The Davinci Code’ and ‘Angels and Demons’ Portrays a world where secret societies have a lot of power.
Just one final point, David Icke goes on about how our lives are controlled by the few. So he goes out and preaches, in the hope of convincing people that he is right and convert them to his way of thinking, follow me and I shall show you the truth. Is that not a form of control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMq6gc1yMgAnyone like to comment on this man
Harlequin
May 13 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(Jason Chapman @ May 13 2008, 10:37 PM)

I recently answered a post on another forum concerning Mr Icke and this is what I wrote
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I have never read anything David Icke has written so I am not qualified to comment. However I do have this to say. In 1991 he first announced that he was the Son of God on the Terry Wogan show BBC1. Since then he has changed his story in a regular basis which has made him a figure of ridicule. I have just been watching this interview you tube. It is a lot to take in, he’s a very good speaker and I can see why a lot of people would be sucked in to his way of thinking.
I think most people know how crap this world is and how controlled our different societies can be. But most of us choose to push these kinds of subjects to the dark recesses of our minds. Fear of saying something like ‘I believe in UFO’s’ can cause most of us to just clam up when it’s mentioned in the media.
One thing David Icke is good at, and that’s jumping on people band wagons especially Dan Brown who’s books ‘The Davinci Code’ and ‘Angels and Demons’ Portrays a world where secret societies have a lot of power.
Just one final point, David Icke goes on about how our lives are controlled by the few. So he goes out and preaches, in the hope of convincing people that he is right and convert them to his way of thinking, follow me and I shall show you the truth. Is that not a form of control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMq6gc1yMgAnyone like to comment on this man
I've seen some of his stuff, and I've read his detractors stuff.
I can't figure if he's the sanest, or the most insane man on the planet. I'm seriously sat on the fence as regards Icke.
He's right about the media controlling us with what could be called 'peer pressure' I'm bang alongside him with that- then he'll say something like "The Royal Family are lizards" and he's back in the nutters box as far as I'm concerned.
Norfolk Rob
May 17 2008, 03:04 PM
The thing that intrigues me with David Icke was the change in personality.
When he was presenting Football Focus he appeared to be a well balanced, level headed individual.
Was he keeping his radical view of the world to himself or did he 'see the light' overnight?
I mean if it was Des Lynam spouting off about purple tracksuits and lizards running the country you could understand it. At the time David Icke was the John Major of football pundits - the bloke least likely to lose touch with reality
Jason Chapman
May 17 2008, 03:44 PM
Its always the quiet ones.
Norfolk Rob
May 17 2008, 04:14 PM
Just watched the YouTube clip. The stuff he says about the planet being ruled by a small number of families is believable. But why is it that these self styled gurus are so bloody serious. If they had a sense of humour they'd be more accessible. I can see it now- Saturday Night Takeaway with David Icke and Charles Manson
I wonder if David Icke still follows football?
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
May 17 2008, 06:10 PM
You see he wasn't referring to the world, his world... Football...
bagpuss13
May 30 2008, 09:57 PM
the reason david icke is ridiculed by the press and mainstream media, is because he is so close to the real truth about these ruling elites...even his theory about reptilians has a degree of credibility, if you read his theory in its entirety...not just the tabloid headlines....he predicted 9/11 years before it happened...of course what he states is alarming...he is the canary in the mine!!!...we, the conditioned automatons without rational or questioning always accept the so called official line spewed out by the bought and paid for media...sheeple of this planet have to wake up and hear what icke and others have to say....they just might be right afterall
Truth Teller
May 30 2008, 10:18 PM
David Ike talks a lot of sense, but some of the things he says are hard to accept (being the son of God for one) i saw that and i just dont understand it, but what he is absolutely cock on with is, the way the Government creates a problem that requires a solution that suits their purpose.
A couple of instance's for you here for instance the Government allowed in to this country many Muslim terrorists, Abu Hanza to name one, they allowed him in to this country, (they created the problem) and then used him as an excuse to take away our civil rights. Create the problem that requires a solution that serves their purpose.
Secondly Thatcher stopped Apprenticeships, creating a shortage of skilled labour, then they can flood the country with immigrants with the reason we are short of skilled workers, once again create the problem that requires a solution that suites their purpose. Ikes absolutely right on that score, but some other stuff i dont understand, but just because i don't understand it, does not necessarily mean he is wrong.
Once again, lets take the son of God thing as am instance, I don't know if he is the son of God or not, but if we look back at the story of Jesus Christ, not many people believed he was the son of God either.
And lets be honest, for some one who lived 2000 years ago, and he is still looked upon to day as an example to live your live your life by, and has spread his ideology around just about all of the world, to say the least, was a very special person, who ever he was, and we don't know if Ikes idea's will be as powerful and as as long lasting as Jesus Christ's do we.
Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Harlequin
May 30 2008, 10:50 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 31 2008, 12:26 AM)

and we don't know if Ikes idea's will be as powerful and as as long lasting as Jesus Christ's do we.
Only one way to find out...come back in 1000 years time.
But you are right, it's history that will judge, not the current generations.
Jason Chapman
May 31 2008, 04:01 AM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Secondly Thatcher stopped Apprenticeships, creating a shortage of skilled labour, then they can flood the country with immigrants with the reason we are short of skilled workers, once again create the problem that requires a solution that suites their purpose. Ikes absolutely right on that score, but some other stuff i dont understand, but just because i don't understand it, does not necessarily mean he is wrong.
She brought the poll/council tax in twenty years ago to pay for a future welfare state where millions of Brits and immigrants are claiming benefits. It is the system we are living in today. Let’s face it if all the money we give to the local councils actually did pay for services we’d be a very tidy and clean nation.
I do stand by what I say with David Ike, I just find his reptilian aliens theory a little too like that classic TV series V, remember that one, sexy female Aliens shoving a whole manner of things into their gobs, MMmm. Like I said he seems to read the book of the month then jump on the band wagon. I guess at the end of the day I’m too rational and would like to see a little thing called solid evidence.
gill
Jun 1 2008, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Holding my hand up sorry, I don't believe he existed in the way the bible would have us believe no. Why did god feel the need for a virgin birth and a childhood which did nothing at all, why not just put this man on earth as an adult to carry out his work.
Jesus if he did exist was just another David Icke and certainly no more the son of god than anyone else.
Junius
Jun 2 2008, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 08:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Jesus probably did exist... but not as a son of god or as anybody special... other than, probably a philosopher of his time... and may as a magician as well.
tuscan
Jun 2 2008, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(gill @ Jun 1 2008, 05:31 PM)

QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Holding my hand up sorry, I don't believe he existed in the way the bible would have us believe no. Why did god feel the need for a virgin birth and a childhood which did nothing at all, why not just put this man on earth as an adult to carry out his work.
Jesus if he did exist was just another David Icke and certainly no more the son of god than anyone else.
Jesus if he did exist was probably a well educated man and nobody's fool but as for the bible i would say it was more of a guide for life than actually taking it word for word .
PS: David Icke is an idiot.
Truth Teller
Jun 7 2008, 05:01 PM
What about his achievement of getting a church built in every town and every village in the western world, what about the fact that he is used as an example of how to live your life over 2000 years after he died.
Do you think that is not way beyond a normal human achievement? Can you tell me any human being who has done equal to that, or even anything near to equal that?
aboutblank1976
Jun 13 2008, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Not in the highly glamourised, heroic light potrayed in the bible no.
Rach227
Jun 13 2008, 04:35 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Yes, I think he did exist, whether he really was the son of god I don't know, that's all up to faith I guess.
Truth Teller
Jun 13 2008, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(Rach227 @ Jun 13 2008, 05:43 PM)

QUOTE(Truth Teller @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM)

Does any one here, not believe that Jesus Christ ever really existed?
Yes, I think he did exist, whether he really was the son of god I don't know, that's all up to faith I guess.
Do you believe in the things Jesus taught? Leaving aside whether he was the son of God or not.
Do you believe in God?
Rach227
Jun 14 2008, 09:38 AM
I believe in most of the things he taught
Whether I believe in god or not I'm not sure, sometimes I do sometimes I don't. lol I know it's weird but it's what I think
Truth Teller
Jun 15 2008, 05:37 PM
Are you a women? Nothing new there then eh.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
Jun 15 2008, 08:32 PM
Well his teachings are based on Jewish arent they, so maybe Jesus was a group. As i said with Judas being the Jewish Religion.
Truth Teller
Jun 19 2008, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ Jun 15 2008, 06:45 PM)

Are you a women? Nothing new there then eh.

i was only tormenting you there Rach, i hope you havent taken me seriously.
Bedrock
Aug 9 2008, 04:22 PM
David icke used to be on the james whale radio show quite a lot, very strange that whole story when he appeared to flip .
I think his latest theory is the world is run by aliens.
Truth Teller
Aug 10 2008, 11:33 AM
Lets remember, that Icke tipped the following ten years before it happened, these things he tipped way back in 98 ish. Is this stupidity?
An interesting saying goes \"All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident\" Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
He spoke about the worldwide government agenda, that would include, sometime in the future,
A manufactured open-ended \\\\\\\'war\\\\\\\' that would involve Iraq and Iran (war on terror?)
ID cards in Britain.
Massive increases in utility bills.
Ever greater explosion of CCTV cameras.
Micro-chipped population.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
Aug 10 2008, 06:15 PM
Almost as bad as Nostradamus....
Truth Teller
Aug 10 2008, 09:04 PM
A tad more accurate though don't you think?
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
Aug 10 2008, 10:56 PM
Accuracy or Precision?
Truth Teller
Sep 5 2008, 08:38 AM
QUOTE(i am fire,fire,fire,fire @ Aug 11 2008, 12:04 AM)

Accuracy or Precision?
Whats the difference between the two?
oolongcha
Sep 5 2008, 08:59 AM
I don't think that predicting things like more CCTV and higher gas bills is the sort of thing that people are looking for when they ask for proof of divinity
Truth Teller
Sep 28 2008, 12:44 AM
I don't think that Icke ever mentioned proving divinity, did he? Or at least i have not seen that written any where.
But no one can deny that ten years in advance, he predicted recent happening with absolute accuracy, some of the things he has said are hard to believe obviously, and to some totally impossible to believe, but who can say for a fact, if there true or not.
If he was proved after time, to be so undeniably accurate on some points, will he be proved equally accurate regarding his outlandish claims in just a bit more time?
Only time will tell, i think.
rederic
Sep 28 2008, 09:52 PM
QUOTE(Truth Teller @ Sep 28 2008, 12:52 AM)

I don't think that Icke ever mentioned proving divinity, did he? Or at least i have not seen that written any where.
But no one can deny that ten years in advance, he predicted recent happening with absolute accuracy, some of the things he has said are hard to believe obviously, and to some totally impossible to believe, but who can say for a fact, if there true or not.
If he was proved after time, to be so undeniably accurate on some points, will he be proved equally accurate regarding his outlandish claims in just a bit more time?
Only time will tell, i think.
He said he was the Son of God & therefore divine. If he doesn't want to be thought of as a nutcase then he ought to provide some sort of evidence. To be proved a true seer, he has to be 100% accurate with his predictions, otherwise I could make ten predictions & be confident that some of them would happen.
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