bu_hamdan
Apr 28 2008, 06:20 PM
[b]
The Prophet is the best ideal to follow in your life…
He is the only personality in history to be followed in everything…
-If you are rich so follow the Prophet when he was a merchant traveling with his products between Hijaz and Ash-Sham and when he earned Bahrain's stores
-If you are poor so take him as an example when he was under blockade in the col (mountain pass) of Abu Taleb and when he emigrated to Madinah leaving his country without having anything…
-If you are a king so follow him in his "Sunna" (All his doings and sayings) when he guided the Arabs and was obeyed by all, even great personalities.
-If you are a weak person so take the Prophet as an example when he was accused in Makkah within the atheist system.
-If you are a conqueror, you can share part of his life when he conquered his enemy in the Battle of Badr, Honayn and Makkah
-If you are defeated, take a moral lesson from the Battle of Uhod when he (PBUH)was among his dead and wounded friends…
-If you are a teacher take him an example when he taught his companions in the Masjed.
-If you are a student or seeking for more education, follow him (PBUH) when he was sitting between Gabriel's hands learning and understanding his Message…
-If you are an advisor, faithful consulter so listen to him when he advised the people in his Masjed of Madinah…
-If you are an Orphan, you have to know that the Muhammad's father died before his birth and his mother when he (PBUH) was still a child…
-And as for children he was that cute and polite child living his first years with his child-minder Halima Assa'diyah …
-If you are young so read the biography of the shepherd of Makkah…
-If you are a merchant traveling with some goods, so notice the behaviors of the caravan's leader who went to Busra…
-If you are a judge or evaluator, so look at the Prophet's judgment when he went to Ka'ba and saw the leaders of the tribes about to kill each other because they were struggling about who is the one to put the black stone in its place, and the Prophet –of course- resolved the problem. And also when he was in Madinah judging equally between people no matter if they are rich or poor…
-If you are a husband so read the Prophet's biography about the honest life of Khadijah's and Aisha's husband.
-And if you are a father, so learn how to treat your children as he (PBUH) did with his daughters and grandchildren…
No matter who you are … you have the Prophet's biography; your guide and candle lightning the darkness of your daily life helping you to go through it to gain the hereafter….
He is indeed the greatest personality all over the world.
Scorpio
Apr 28 2008, 08:34 PM
QUOTE(bu_hamdan @ Apr 28 2008, 07:28 PM)

He is indeed the greatest personality all over the world.
I think you mean David Hasselhoff
bu_hamdan
Apr 28 2008, 10:16 PM
this is all about muhammad peace be upon him
Harlequin
Apr 28 2008, 10:28 PM
QUOTE(bu_hamdan @ Apr 29 2008, 12:24 AM)

this is all about muhammad peace be upon him
Fair warning Bu...BUKF is a rough ride for religions...ANY religions.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
Apr 30 2008, 06:50 PM
Just ask bob123
Bob123
May 1 2008, 10:42 AM
I don't doubt the sincerity of Muslims but I would ask them to make a comparison between Mohammed and Jesus Christ. Jesus claimed to be God in human form and proved it by performing many miracles, did Mohammed do this? Moreover, Jesus was perfect, He comitted no sin, was Mohammed perfect?
Jesus died as a sacrifice for our sins, and rose again - did Mohammed do this?
I don't say these things to insult Mohammed but am simply suggesting that the greatest person who ever lived was Jesus Christ who was no ordinary person but God in human form. Moreover, He claimed in John's Gospel 14 v 6 to be the only and exclusive way "to the Father", there is no other way.
We need to accept Him as our Lord and personal Saviour to get our sins forgiven and go to Heaven.
bu_hamdan
May 1 2008, 12:33 PM
Muslims believe that there is one god only. His name is Allah.
However they also believe that Jesus is a prophet exactly like Muhammad peace be upon them and they love Jesus exactly like Muhammad. They dont believe that Jesus is a god and exactly like they don't believe that Muhammad id a god too.
zoroaster
May 1 2008, 12:37 PM
Can you please tell us all about the Battle of Khaybar?
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
May 1 2008, 04:58 PM
Oh the attack on the Oasis of Kaybar inhabited by Jews.
bu_hamdan
May 1 2008, 05:26 PM
firstly Kaybar is not oasis
secondly I don't know much in history
search it in google and you will find out from both sides.
Bob123
May 1 2008, 05:30 PM
QUOTE(bu_hamdan @ May 1 2008, 12:41 PM)

Muslims believe that there is one god only. His name is Allah.
However they also believe that Jesus is a prophet exactly like Muhammad peace be upon them and they love Jesus exactly like Muhammad. They dont believe that Jesus is a god and exactly like they don't believe that Muhammad id a god too.
Christians believe in one God eternally existent in 3 persons, Father, Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God's son not in a physical sense but a spiritual one. Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did? Did Mohammed ever commit sin? Jesus was sinless. Did Mohammed die for our sins and rise again. Make these comparisons and you will see that Jesus is God and infinitely superior to any other prophet.
pladecalvo
May 5 2008, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 1 2008, 06:38 PM)

Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did?
If you say it is true that miracles have actually occurred then please provide some reasonable evidence to show us that you are telling the truth. You need to provide evidence that your man-god exists. It can't be rationally expected that anything can do anything until you can rationally demonstrate that said thing actually exists. Existence is primary. The ability to act is secondary. You're still lagging at step one and have made zero progress in over 2000 years.
Bob123
May 15 2008, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 5 2008, 06:23 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 1 2008, 06:38 PM)

Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did?
If you say it is true that miracles have actually occurred then please provide some reasonable evidence to show us that you are telling the truth. You need to provide evidence that your man-god exists. It can't be rationally expected that anything can do anything until you can rationally demonstrate that said thing actually exists. Existence is primary. The ability to act is secondary. You're still lagging at step one and have made zero progress in over 2000 years.
The evidence is in eye witness reports. Read "Evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell.
Jason Chapman
May 15 2008, 03:14 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 1 2008, 05:38 PM)

QUOTE(bu_hamdan @ May 1 2008, 12:41 PM)

Muslims believe that there is one god only. His name is Allah.
However they also believe that Jesus is a prophet exactly like Muhammad peace be upon them and they love Jesus exactly like Muhammad. They dont believe that Jesus is a god and exactly like they don't believe that Muhammad id a god too.
Christians believe in one God eternally existent in 3 persons, Father, Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God's son not in a physical sense but a spiritual one. Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did? Did Mohammed ever commit sin? Jesus was sinless. Did Mohammed die for our sins and rise again. Make these comparisons and you will see that Jesus is God and infinitely superior to any other prophet.
Bob, Bob, Bob, bobbing along, bobbing along on the bottom of the beautiful…. Sorry couldn’t resist.
Bob, you have just left yourself so exposed with what you have just said there my old chum.
QUOTE
‘Make these comparisons and you will see that Jesus is God and infinitely superior to any other prophet’
Are you trying to say that your god is more powerful than any other God Bob? Isn’t that why this planet sucks Bob, men like you enforcing religious law on as many people as possible whether they want it or not?. Let’s go back to the crusades shall we Bob, Rome declares war on Muslim infidels for slaughtering Christians out in the Holy land, so they send an army out there to wipe out the Muslims and plant their own flag in the Holy land. Moving forward a few hundred years Bob and we have the Spaniards conquest of South America and so on and so forth. Have you noticed anything here Bob. Religious leaders do not rely on God for Victory just a bunch of thugs who they hire to impose God’s will on other nations, and they constantly use the word superior just as you have done. Sounds a lot like dictatorship to me Bob.
pladecalvo
May 20 2008, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 15 2008, 12:19 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 5 2008, 06:23 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 1 2008, 06:38 PM)

Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did?
If you say it is true that miracles have actually occurred then please provide some reasonable evidence to show us that you are telling the truth. You need to provide evidence that your man-god exists. It can't be rationally expected that anything can do anything until you can rationally demonstrate that said thing actually exists. Existence is primary. The ability to act is secondary. You're still lagging at step one and have made zero progress in over 2000 years.
The evidence is in eye witness reports. Read "Evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell.
Bob/Eric, I challenge you to produce an "eye-witness" report of your Jesus. Come on dude, put your money where your mouth is.
ai21
May 20 2008, 11:18 AM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 20 2008, 01:55 PM)

QUOTE
The evidence is in eye witness reports. Read "Evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell.
Bob/Eric, I challenge you to produce an "eye-witness" report of your Jesus. Come on dude, put your money where your mouth is.
this isn't as hard as you think - you can check the Talmud for that.
a book written after his time, with some references to him,
and without any motive to assist christianity
christians tried to censor these parts too...
it makes little difference though, since the claims made are against Jesus,
which is, if I may say so, way too easy...
pladecalvo
May 20 2008, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(ai21 @ May 20 2008, 12:26 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 20 2008, 01:55 PM)

QUOTE
The evidence is in eye witness reports. Read "Evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell.
Bob/Eric, I challenge you to produce an "eye-witness" report of your Jesus. Come on dude, put your money where your mouth is.
this isn't as hard as you think - you can check the Talmud for that.
a book written after his time, with some references to him,
and without any motive to assist christianity
christians tried to censor these parts too...
it makes little difference though, since the claims made are against Jesus,
which is, if I may say so, way too easy...
As the Talmud was written between the 2nd and 5th century CE it isn't an eye-witness report of his life is it? The Talmud, BTW, says Jesus was born in the second century CE, learnt black magic in Egypt, was a bastard son of Roman soldier, was conceived during menstruation, burnt his food, had 5 disciples and was stoned to death in Lydda. Ummmmm! I don't think we want to go there do we?
Bob123
May 22 2008, 04:17 PM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 20 2008, 09:55 AM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 15 2008, 12:19 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 5 2008, 06:23 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 1 2008, 06:38 PM)

Again I ask, did Mohammed do the miracles Jesus did?
If you say it is true that miracles have actually occurred then please provide some reasonable evidence to show us that you are telling the truth. You need to provide evidence that your man-god exists. It can't be rationally expected that anything can do anything until you can rationally demonstrate that said thing actually exists. Existence is primary. The ability to act is secondary. You're still lagging at step one and have made zero progress in over 2000 years.
The evidence is in eye witness reports. Read "Evidence that demands a verdict" by Josh McDowell.
Bob/Eric, I challenge you to produce an "eye-witness" report of your Jesus. Come on dude, put your money where your mouth is.
Read Josh McDowell's "Evidence that demands a verdict"
Jason Chapman
May 23 2008, 04:15 AM
QUOTE(bu_hamdan @ Apr 28 2008, 06:28 PM)

[b]
The Prophet is the best ideal to follow in your life…
He is the only personality in history to be followed in everything…
-If you are rich so follow the Prophet when he was a merchant traveling with his products between Hijaz and Ash-Sham and when he earned Bahrain's stores
-If you are poor so take him as an example when he was under blockade in the col (mountain pass) of Abu Taleb and when he emigrated to Madinah leaving his country without having anything…
-If you are a king so follow him in his "Sunna" (All his doings and sayings) when he guided the Arabs and was obeyed by all, even great personalities.
-If you are a weak person so take the Prophet as an example when he was accused in Makkah within the atheist system.
-If you are a conqueror, you can share part of his life when he conquered his enemy in the Battle of Badr, Honayn and Makkah
-If you are defeated, take a moral lesson from the Battle of Uhod when he (PBUH)was among his dead and wounded friends…
-If you are a teacher take him an example when he taught his companions in the Masjed.
-If you are a student or seeking for more education, follow him (PBUH) when he was sitting between Gabriel's hands learning and understanding his Message…
-If you are an advisor, faithful consulter so listen to him when he advised the people in his Masjed of Madinah…
-If you are an Orphan, you have to know that the Muhammad's father died before his birth and his mother when he (PBUH) was still a child…
-And as for children he was that cute and polite child living his first years with his child-minder Halima Assa'diyah …
-If you are young so read the biography of the shepherd of Makkah…
-If you are a merchant traveling with some goods, so notice the behaviors of the caravan's leader who went to Busra…
-If you are a judge or evaluator, so look at the Prophet's judgment when he went to Ka'ba and saw the leaders of the tribes about to kill each other because they were struggling about who is the one to put the black stone in its place, and the Prophet –of course- resolved the problem. And also when he was in Madinah judging equally between people no matter if they are rich or poor…
-If you are a husband so read the Prophet's biography about the honest life of Khadijah's and Aisha's husband.
-And if you are a father, so learn how to treat your children as he (PBUH) did with his daughters and grandchildren…
No matter who you are … you have the Prophet's biography; your guide and candle lightning the darkness of your daily life helping you to go through it to gain the hereafter….
He is indeed the greatest personality all over the world.
Hey here's a question Bu Hamdan, do you think that anyone who does not follow Islam should be punished for their sins?
pladecalvo
May 23 2008, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 22 2008, 05:25 PM)

Read Josh McDowell's "Evidence that demands a verdict"
I have. Name the "eye-witnesses.
Bob123
May 25 2008, 02:00 PM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 23 2008, 05:19 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 22 2008, 05:25 PM)

Read Josh McDowell's "Evidence that demands a verdict"
I have. Name the "eye-witnesses.
I am very pleased that you have read Josh McDowell's book. You have no excuse for not repenting of your sins and accepting Jesus as your personal Saviour.
One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
i am fire,fire,fire,fire
May 25 2008, 07:00 PM
But can you name a source from a neutral view-point, I.E. a pagan/or Jew (someone who wasn't a Apostle or Christian)
pladecalvo
May 29 2008, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
John did not write the gospel of John nor were any of the other gospels written by those that they were named after.
Truth Teller
May 30 2008, 09:18 PM
QUOTE
Bob, Bob, Bob, bobbing along, bobbing along on the bottom of the beautiful…. Sorry couldn’t resist.

i just spotted this one, this is not like you at all JC, but its a bloody good un for sure.
Harlequin
May 31 2008, 04:30 PM
Bob,Bob,Bobbing along at the bottom of the beautiful Dogma sea?
Theism sea?
?
Emissary of the Bee
Jun 2 2008, 01:09 PM

Just me?
Harlequin
Jun 2 2008, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(Emissary of the Bee @ Jun 2 2008, 03:17 PM)


Just me?
Possibly.
My skin just gets spots. I've noticed no rainbows. But the day isn't over yet.
Bob123
Jun 7 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 29 2008, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
John did not write the gospel of John nor were any of the other gospels written by those that they were named after.
You are incorrect. This is because the Devil has blinded you. Moderator: you are censoring my posts because you only believe in free speech if it agrees with you.
pladecalvo
Jun 14 2008, 06:50 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 7 2008, 01:54 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 29 2008, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
John did not write the gospel of John nor were any of the other gospels written by those that they were named after.
You are incorrect.
I'm afraid not Eric. Bishop Ireaneus (sp) ascribed the names Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to the Gospels in the 2nd century CE. Also, Biblical scholars, even many conservative scholars, accept that the Gospels are not eyewitness accounts. Nobody had even heard of the Gospels until well into the second century. All you have to do is look at the evidence.
Luke was not a follower of Jesus, he was a follower of Paul. Because some spurious stories about your man-god were circulating, Luke interviewed people who
claimed to have known your man-god. So the Gospel of Luke is nothing more than second hand stories from people who
claimed to have know this Jesus.
Matthew makes no direct claim in his gospel to being an eyewitness and heavily plagiarised Mark...which an "eye-witness" wouldn't need to do.
Mark wrote down what Peter had told him about who Jesus was, what he did, where he went and what happened. Mark's gospel is therefore Peter's account, written down by Mark.
The Gospel of John was written c100-110 CE. Far to long after the events to have been written by an eye-witness.
Now I know you don't want that to be true Eric because it spoils your little myths but the evidence won't go away just because you don't like it.
Harlequin
Jun 15 2008, 07:41 AM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 7 2008, 02:54 PM)

Moderator: you are censoring my posts because you only believe in free speech if it agrees with you.
Bollocks.
Rach227
Jun 15 2008, 09:33 AM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

You are incorrect. This is because the Devil has blinded you. Moderator: you are censoring my posts because you only believe in free speech if it agrees with you.
I think one point is that you can't MAKE someone agree with a certain faith it's not right. I've got a friend who's a christian but she does not go around saying the devil has blinded your views. It's your own right to choose your own faith and to decide what you do and don't believe in. If this sends you to hell then so be it but you can't go around scaring people into believing in Jesus and God.
pladecalvo
Jun 15 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE(Rach227 @ Jun 15 2008, 10:41 AM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

You are incorrect. This is because the Devil has blinded you. Moderator: you are censoring my posts because you only believe in free speech if it agrees with you.
I think one point is that you can't MAKE someone agree with a certain faith it's not right. I've got a friend who's a christian but she does not go around saying the devil has blinded your views. It's your own right to choose your own faith and to decide what you do and don't believe in. If this sends you to hell then so be it but you can't go around scaring people into believing in Jesus and God.
I've known Eric/bob for yonks Rach. All he's ever done is try to frighten people into believe what he believes. All you'll ever get out of him is a few stock phrases like:
Repent or face hellfire
The devil has blinded you.
The only way to get to heaven is through Jesus.
rederic
Jun 15 2008, 09:23 PM
I think Bob is an Atheist, just like me.
pladecalvo
Jun 16 2008, 06:39 AM
Of course he is...as are all Christians. They just disbelieve one god less than we do.
Rach227
Jun 16 2008, 08:47 AM
Actually if you put it like that... your right lol
Harlequin
Jun 23 2008, 08:55 PM
Bob123
Jun 24 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(pladecalvo @ Jun 14 2008, 06:58 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 7 2008, 01:54 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 29 2008, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
John did not write the gospel of John nor were any of the other gospels written by those that they were named after.
You are incorrect.
I'm afraid not Eric. Bishop Ireaneus (sp) ascribed the names Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to the Gospels in the 2nd century CE. Also, Biblical scholars, even many conservative scholars, accept that the Gospels are not eyewitness accounts. Nobody had even heard of the Gospels until well into the second century. All you have to do is look at the evidence.
Luke was not a follower of Jesus, he was a follower of Paul. Because some spurious stories about your man-god were circulating, Luke interviewed people who
claimed to have known your man-god. So the Gospel of Luke is nothing more than second hand stories from people who
claimed to have know this Jesus.
Matthew makes no direct claim in his gospel to being an eyewitness and heavily plagiarised Mark...which an "eye-witness" wouldn't need to do.
Mark wrote down what Peter had told him about who Jesus was, what he did, where he went and what happened. Mark's gospel is therefore Peter's account, written down by Mark.
The Gospel of John was written c100-110 CE. Far to long after the events to have been written by an eye-witness.
Now I know you don't want that to be true Eric because it spoils your little myths but the evidence won't go away just because you don't like it.
This "evidence" is incorrect. The Devil has blinded you.
Bob123
Jun 24 2008, 11:29 AM
QUOTE(Rach227 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:41 AM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

You are incorrect. This is because the Devil has blinded you. Moderator: you are censoring my posts because you only believe in free speech if it agrees with you.
I think one point is that you can't MAKE someone agree with a certain faith it's not right. I've got a friend who's a christian but she does not go around saying the devil has blinded your views. It's your own right to choose your own faith and to decide what you do and don't believe in. If this sends you to hell then so be it but you can't go around scaring people into believing in Jesus and God.
The Bible teaches quite clearly that unbelievers have been blinded by the Devil. I am only repeating what the Bible (the infallible Word of God) says.
Harlequin
Jun 24 2008, 02:00 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:35 PM)

This "evidence" is incorrect. The Devil has blinded you.
Classic
Rach227
Jun 24 2008, 03:23 PM
I'm sorry, but if the devil is blinding us, it's blinding over half the world. Like I've said before you can't force a religion on to someone so you should stop trying because it isn't going to work
ai21
Jun 24 2008, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(Harlequin @ Jun 24 2008, 01:03 AM)

I thought he already did in come back and became Muslim,
back in 1666...
Bob123
Jun 24 2008, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(Rach227 @ Jun 24 2008, 03:31 PM)

I'm sorry, but if the devil is blinding us, it's blinding over half the world. Like I've said before you can't force a religion on to someone so you should stop trying because it isn't going to work
I am not "forcing" a religion on anyone. I am simply stating truth; if you don't accept the truth it is no loss to me.
Rach227
Jun 24 2008, 07:27 PM
sounds like your scare mongering to me but meh what ever you say
Harlequin
Jun 24 2008, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(ai21 @ Jun 24 2008, 08:25 PM)

QUOTE(Harlequin @ Jun 24 2008, 01:03 AM)

I thought he already did in come back and became Muslim,
back in 1666...Oh well...
I can't help but quote from "Life of Brian" at this point.
"Of course he's the messiah, and I should know, I've followed a few."
pladecalvo
Jun 25 2008, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 24 2008, 12:35 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ Jun 14 2008, 06:58 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 7 2008, 01:54 PM)

QUOTE(pladecalvo @ May 29 2008, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ May 25 2008, 03:08 PM)

One of the eye witnesses was John who wrote John's Gospel.
John did not write the gospel of John nor were any of the other gospels written by those that they were named after.
You are incorrect.
I'm afraid not Eric. Bishop Ireaneus (sp) ascribed the names Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to the Gospels in the 2nd century CE. Also, Biblical scholars, even many conservative scholars, accept that the Gospels are not eyewitness accounts. Nobody had even heard of the Gospels until well into the second century. All you have to do is look at the evidence.
Luke was not a follower of Jesus, he was a follower of Paul. Because some spurious stories about your man-god were circulating, Luke interviewed people who
claimed to have known your man-god. So the Gospel of Luke is nothing more than second hand stories from people who
claimed to have know this Jesus.
Matthew makes no direct claim in his gospel to being an eyewitness and heavily plagiarised Mark...which an "eye-witness" wouldn't need to do.
Mark wrote down what Peter had told him about who Jesus was, what he did, where he went and what happened. Mark's gospel is therefore Peter's account, written down by Mark.
The Gospel of John was written c100-110 CE. Far to long after the events to have been written by an eye-witness.
Now I know you don't want that to be true Eric because it spoils your little myths but the evidence won't go away just because you don't like it.
This "evidence" is incorrect. The Devil has blinded you.
I know it's a waste of time posting this link by Rev. Dr. Mark D. Roberts for a 'God-Zombie like yourself Eric....but I'll do it for those who aren't blinded by faith.
"So, did the gospels writers know Jesus personally? Mark and Luke did not. Matthew and John might have, but we can't be positive. Yet the reliability of the New Testament gospels does not depend on the question of who wrote them so much as on the nature and purpose of the writings themselves. If Luke, for example, did what he claimed to do in the prologue to his narrative, then he can be considered a reliable witness to Jesus even though he never actually saw Jesus in the flesh."http://www.markdroberts.com/htmfiles/resou...elsreliable.htm
Bob123
Jun 25 2008, 03:37 PM
Matthew and John were actually followers of Christ and, therefore, DID know Him personally. We know that John knew Jesus because He says so in his 1st epistle. (1st John 1 v 1-2). I am not interested in what people say but what God's infallible word - the Bible- says.
Scorpio
Jun 26 2008, 10:17 AM
aboutblank1976
Jun 26 2008, 12:44 PM
QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:45 PM)

Matthew and John were actually followers of Christ and, therefore, DID know Him personally. We know that John knew Jesus because He says so in his 1st epistle. (1st John 1 v 1-2). I am not interested in what people say but what God's infallible word - the Bible- says.
In that case then I see little point in you being active on a discussion forum if you have no interest in other peoples opinions.
Kellyxx
Jun 26 2008, 12:45 PM
QUOTE(aboutblank1976 @ Jun 26 2008, 12:52 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:45 PM)

Matthew and John were actually followers of Christ and, therefore, DID know Him personally. We know that John knew Jesus because He says so in his 1st epistle. (1st John 1 v 1-2). I am not interested in what people say but what God's infallible word - the Bible- says.
In that case then I see little point in you being active on a discussion forum if you have no interest in other peoples opinions.

hehe
Harlequin
Jun 26 2008, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(aboutblank1976 @ Jun 26 2008, 02:52 PM)

QUOTE(Bob123 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:45 PM)

Matthew and John were actually followers of Christ and, therefore, DID know Him personally. We know that John knew Jesus because He says so in his 1st epistle. (1st John 1 v 1-2). I am not interested in what people say but what God's infallible word - the Bible- says.
In that case then I see little point in you being active on a discussion forum if you have no interest in other peoples opinions.
Then again...he represents a real volume of opinions/people. ie. the fundamentalist.
I quite like Bob123. He's what the religious leaders would like us to act and think like.
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